
What's the story? Is this just a place for the well-to-do NYC ElderGays? If you're under 28 and stumble in there you automatically feel like a Hooker.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 373 | May 16, 2020 1:56 AM |
Love it. Enjoy the piano lounge. Mentioned going there to my mother who looked it up and ever after she referred it as a wrinkle bar. "Are you singing at the wrinkle bar Thursday night?"
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 20, 2017 4:26 AM |
Here is a list of items that may inhibit your entrance to the club:
• Hats or baseball caps • Gym or workout gear • Sleeveless shirts or tank tops • Ripped or torn clothing • Oversized jeans or t-shirts • Head bandanas or do-rags • Cut off shorts • Lycra spandex
I wish every place was like this
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 20, 2017 4:28 AM |
It looks like my dream bar/lounge.
If I were a man living in NYC, this would be my second home.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 20, 2017 4:38 AM |
I'm 43, have been here twice, and felt totally out of place. I'm not an old guy and I'm not a young gigolo.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 20, 2017 4:38 AM |
It's a place where you can actually, you know, have a conversation.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 20, 2017 5:05 AM |
Nyc lifer here. Run, don't walk, far away. I am 45 years old, thus certainly the right age for the townhouse. aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhh. Or as they say on DL, "kill it with fire". Preferably a grease fire.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 20, 2017 5:10 AM |
R6, have you in fact ever been there?
Are ties required? I don't do ties.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 20, 2017 5:21 AM |
It has a reputation of being a hustler bar, but I've never seen anyone in there under 50. A real hustler would make a killing, I should think.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 20, 2017 5:27 AM |
Can be fun.
Ties not required R7 but you'll see a lot of them after work.
A few years ago I met a beautiful dark Irish man with one of the biggest penises I have ever seen, sucked on, ridden. For that alone TTH will always hold a special place in my man-cunt.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 20, 2017 5:29 AM |
I hope you aren't speaking literally.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 20, 2017 5:29 AM |
If you like serial killers, you have a blast.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 11 | August 20, 2017 5:30 AM |
Lots of men under fifty. I'm under fifty and have been going for years. Sure some boys there are working but they dont bother you unless that's what your looking for. Mostly nice, normal sane men who actually hold down jobs. Some of the guys who sing are very good.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 20, 2017 5:35 AM |
Love when Rick is playing
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 20, 2017 5:38 AM |
There's some cute blonde kid who sings there sometimes.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 20, 2017 5:44 AM |
R11 so it's campy? Serial Killers from the 90s, Lounge Acts, Hustlers, Bronze-Age Gays, how Chic...
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 20, 2017 6:37 AM |
I went there once on a trip to NYC. I had a pretty good time watching the old queens around the piano, along with the ANCIENT fag hag who really thought she was a "Broadway Baby"...there were definitely some "working boys" there the night I went. The decor and lighting of the piano bar area reminded me of a funeral home.
Overall, I wouldn't mind going again, I guess, but have never been compelled to go on any of my trips to NYC since then.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 20, 2017 6:49 AM |
Here all I have to do is smile and somebody buys me a drink. At most other bars I'm the old guy.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 21, 2017 4:27 AM |
It's the gold in your teeth, toots.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 21, 2017 4:31 AM |
friendly crowd. low key, civilized, lads are welcomed, but not fawned over,
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 21, 2017 4:41 AM |
My favorite bar in the whole wide world! And even though I have had traveled extensively, i have never found a place like this anywhere. Almost like a second home. It is not a place for a hookups, especially if you are into young guys. I have always preferred the more mature, more sophisticated crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 21, 2017 4:50 AM |
In the 1990s, it wasn't a hooker bar. The hooker bar was Rounds, down the street a few blocks.
In the 90s, The Townhouse was full of old, oooooold men. I went in there one Friday night, and there wasn't a man under 95. I could smell the Ben Gay and hear their dentures grinding. Maybe I should have stuck around and found an old sugar daddy, but I could never get past the "Larry King crypt keeper" look.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 21, 2017 4:54 AM |
Am I hallucinating, or is the Townhouse an upscale hustler bar?
I remember seeing acres of older gentlemen and the 20 yo twinkies who love them.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 21, 2017 4:55 AM |
[quote]A few years ago I met a beautiful dark Irish man with one of the biggest penises I have ever seen
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, oh that's a good one. I'm laughing so hard, I'm weeping. An Irish man with a big penis. Oh, sweet Mary, Jesus and Joseph, that's funny.
An Irish man, with a big penis. Oh my God, that joke just made my weekend.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 21, 2017 4:59 AM |
[quote]An Irish man, with a big penis. Oh my God, that joke just made my weekend.
Keep that sense of humor, son.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 21, 2017 5:20 AM |
my friends and I have been frequenting this place since we were in college and we're in our 30's now. It's laid-back and unpretentious. Being in the piano lounge with the elder gays is fun, they sing, have a good time and it makes me wonder why young gays can't be more friendly to each other instead of standing around a club being bitchy. I've been invited home by older men here regularly but never with the mention of money being involved but I have the thought that if you come to this bar alone and you're a young man..you're looking for a Daddy.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | August 21, 2017 5:22 AM |
[quote]—Liam "10 inches" Neeson
Rumor until proven guilty.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 21, 2017 5:23 AM |
If you're say, 25, don't go in wearing one of these. Subtlety is key.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 28 | August 21, 2017 5:29 AM |
I haven't been there in years. It's like a funeral parlor. With a piano. Lots of money, lots of ascots. Older white men who have good jobs or are just rich and missing Rounds. I can't imagine any guy under 35 going there unless they are hooking. You can smell money as you walk through the front door.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 21, 2017 5:31 AM |
Looking at the bio for pianist Michael Ferreri.
[quote]Michael has appeared in concert with such celebrated performers as Michael Feinstein, Andrea McArdle and Greg Edelman, to name a few. He has also been given the unique honor of performing for HRH Prince Philip (where was Liz?)
And now he's headlining at the last stop before Gay Croaksville
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 21, 2017 5:34 AM |
R24, maybe Colin Farrell, in his sex tape, is the exception that proves the rule ( whatever that means).
R28, thanks!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 21, 2017 5:37 AM |
I will never forget the image of Liam Neeson in some movie naked running with his big johnson flopping about. The scene was at night but you could see it was huge when soft.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 21, 2017 5:43 AM |
[quote]Well, what's the TITLE!
The title is "R32's Wet Dream." You can find it on xtube.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 21, 2017 5:48 AM |
I had a nice time there when I went to visit a friend I had gone to art school with. We settled into the short arm of the bar at the back, and after a while a tall man with silvered dark hair, suit and waistcoat, came in and sat next to us. He started talking to my friend Paul and, as the saying goes, a purse fell out of his mouth. When he found out Paul was an artist he told him about this art foundation he ran in Italy. I stayed out of the conversation mostly, just enjoyed the environment as their conversation seemed to take over the bar. I still have the guy's card around the house somewhere. That was the same visit when I met Caleb Carr at a wedding party at a large house in the village. It was one of my best visits anywhere, but I don't travel much.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 21, 2017 6:01 AM |
The last time I was there, I saw a man who was no less than 80 years old hitting on a twink bartender that looked like he was barely 21. The hustlers that work these bars deserve to be paid big money for what they have to go through. I could just picture some young dumb twink asking an older client he met at the Townhouse Bar, "What's in that bag on your side?" His response, "Well, that will have to be a surprise for later young man!"
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 21, 2017 6:08 AM |
What is all the insane anger against gay men over 50!?????
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 21, 2017 6:11 AM |
It is everywhere [37] ... I just don't know who to blame, the ignorant, arrogant under 50, or the age discriminating over 50, who will not date anyone their own age. I'm 54 - not overweight, well educated and cultured, and not too bad looking either - but have given up any hopes of seeing anyone my own age as most of them are just chasing after younger guys. Well, screw them! Got a cat, started playing guitar and learning French to fill the void. Happy as can be, but there is a bit of bitterness underneath toward my own kind.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 21, 2017 6:32 AM |
[quote]or the age discriminating over 50, who will not date anyone their own age.
That's just men in general. How many straight men have you seen with a much younger woman? It's so prevalent, it's cliche.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 21, 2017 6:35 AM |
Many [39] ... but none of them was gay, unfortunately. It's not a cliche, it is a reality ... just step outside the yellow brick road for a moment and open your eyes.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 21, 2017 6:40 AM |
Correction for the above: Not as many [39] ...
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 21, 2017 6:43 AM |
liam talked about his penis on andy cohen's show one time
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 42 | August 21, 2017 6:57 AM |
R42, thanks for the link, that's the image I was referring to, DL was the place I first saw this, years ago.
I don't remember which talk show it was ( i think it was Leno?), Liam said William Defoe and himself have the biggest cocks in hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 21, 2017 7:06 AM |
Danna Delaney, who did a nude scene with Dafoe, was often heard saying that Neeson and Willem were the biggest in Hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 21, 2017 7:10 AM |
R43, But sadly, two of the ugliest faces in Hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 21, 2017 7:10 AM |
Good for you, R38.
And thanks for torpedoing my foul-ass mood.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 46 | August 21, 2017 7:11 AM |
Adorable
Liam s cock in that gif is not spectacular, especially if he's a shower, not a grower
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 22, 2017 2:24 AM |
An Irish man, with a big penis. Oh my God, that joke just made my weekend.
lol, you really need to get out more pops
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 49 | August 22, 2017 7:23 AM |
Older men can be so generous.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 24, 2017 4:39 PM |
[quote]A few years ago I met a beautiful dark Irish man with one of the biggest penises I have ever seen, sucked on, ridden. For that alone TTH will always hold a special place in my man-cunt.
Sounds hot, how much did it cost you?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 24, 2017 4:50 PM |
I'm genuinely glad for the people who have a good time here, but I've never really enjoyed it.
The last time I went no one talked to me. I'm in my mid 30s with an average body. I figured I confused people since I was clearly not a hooker or rich enough to pay.
I thought it was interesting people watching though. There were the 20 something hustlers but also 40/50 something hustlers acting like twinks with the geriatric crowd. I guess it's the last stop on the line of hustling.
It reminded me a lot of this country club on Long Island my social climbing uncle used to make us go to. Not really all that fancy but pretending to be.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 24, 2017 4:53 PM |
I go there to feel young.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 24, 2017 5:06 PM |
I go there to feel young.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 24, 2017 5:17 PM |
I go there to feel young.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 24, 2017 5:18 PM |
It's wonderful that there is a funeral parlor/speakeasy still in operation!
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 24, 2017 7:15 PM |
I just turned 45. Should I start going?
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 24, 2017 7:36 PM |
longest caftans north of the Pecos
by Anonymous | reply 59 | August 24, 2017 7:47 PM |
Is there still a lower level/basement bar? I've had some fun conversations with the gents there. I haven't been to TH in at least 10 years. Is there still a gay bar across the street? It was once called Oscar Wilde and then OW Bar.
Rounds has been gone for nearly 20 years.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | August 24, 2017 7:48 PM |
R49, nothing wrong with that one, except that it's attached to a lousy actor.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | August 24, 2017 7:52 PM |
R52, i had a similar experience. I'm 60, but I look 30, so the hustlers thoight I was competition, and the old farts, in which category I put myself, thought I was trade. It made for an undatisfactory evening.
The next time, I "aged" myself in advance. Accentuated the nasolabial folds and forehead wrinkles with eyebrow pencil, dusted a bit of talcum powder through my luxuriant locks, and the took down the tooth whiteness a few shades by rubbing on a mixture of turmeric paste. Worked wonders.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | August 24, 2017 8:06 PM |
honey, you need to not start drinking so early in the day, your spelling is ATROCIOUS
by Anonymous | reply 63 | August 24, 2017 8:27 PM |
[quote] Strongest drinks in NYC.
My experience was that the drinks were pricey AND not strong but that the glass was nice.
I prefer 9th Avenue Saloon though so what do I know.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | August 24, 2017 8:31 PM |
It should be clarified that the problem is not that the clientele is over 50. The problem is that the clientele is over 50 with matching ascots and pocket squares, pug dogs, tassel loafers, and too much cologne. The bar is right across from the D&D Center. (That is not as interesting as it sounds. D&D stands for the Design and Decoration Center. ) It is also near Bloomingdales. The clientele tends to be older Inferior Desecrators and even older Shop Bottoms from Bloomies. You also get some antique dealers who have not yet been priced out of the area.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | August 24, 2017 8:41 PM |
[quote] The problem is that the clientele is over 50 with matching ascots and pocket squares, pug dogs, tassel loafers, and too much cologne.
Holy shit, this is spot on.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | August 24, 2017 9:22 PM |
Actually, the fact that they refer to their cocktails as "sublime" tells you all you need to know.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | August 24, 2017 9:28 PM |
Saloon is down and out, but more friendly than those whore-roddiled bars in Hell's kitchenette
by Anonymous | reply 68 | August 24, 2017 9:41 PM |
I'm 48 and have known about the Townhouse for years. But now that I'm "of age" it suddenly sounds like a great place to visit. I wonder what kind of bar snacks they offer.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | August 24, 2017 10:36 PM |
I just turned 45. Should I start going?
—Anonymous
oh yes dear, we'll be waiting for you.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | August 25, 2017 4:44 AM |
R70 Spicy Peanuts and mini crackers in silver serving dishes, for real
by Anonymous | reply 72 | August 25, 2017 4:51 AM |
I went a few months ago. They now have some go-go boys downstairs on Friday and Saturday night who offer lap dances. Some folks upstairs don't like that management is trying to turn a gent's bar into something else.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | August 25, 2017 4:52 AM |
R73 well they need to make money and any remnants of class is on its way or already out the door in America
by Anonymous | reply 74 | August 25, 2017 4:56 AM |
Never been but every description I've heard (including the very funny one from R65) made it sound like a real life version of DL, where a bunch of eldergays in ascots constantly judge each other for signs of being less than high class, even though the lot of them were born in working class families in Flyoverstani small towns.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | August 25, 2017 5:03 AM |
I still say that it sounds like a place I would hang out in if I were an older gay man in NYC.
These sort of places are disappearing quick, and it's sad to me, I think a sophisticated lounge where people dress well, even if it is ascots and pocket squares, sounds very appealing. I will bet good money that the conversation is witty and I love a piano bar.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | August 25, 2017 5:57 AM |
D & D building is on 3rd AV. Not across the street. There used to be a restaurant a few doors west. Not sure if it still exists. The East 50's has been a gay older white male enclave for many years. It's gentile. Lots of high end antique stores on the block. Close to Bloomingdales .
by Anonymous | reply 77 | August 25, 2017 6:16 AM |
I am visualizing what R75 said. That would be enough to make me run far from the place.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | August 25, 2017 6:44 AM |
Townhouse should of been the DL Happy Hour Locale.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | August 25, 2017 6:48 AM |
It looks like those lounge restaurants that were in sitcoms in the late 70s and 80s. It looks like somewhere George Jefferson would go.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | August 25, 2017 6:54 AM |
R70 this is one of the bar snacks presented in very tasteful silver bowls
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 81 | August 25, 2017 7:07 AM |
George Jefferson was on the downlow, R80?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | August 25, 2017 7:13 AM |
R77, the D&D building is across the street. The main entrance is on 3rd Ave, but the building is across the street. If you cannot understand that concept, I certainly hope you are not a designer.
The original restaurant closed many years ago. It was basically another version of the Frown House. They tried an updated version. I can't remember is it was in the original location of a few doors down. (I think the original location became part of a tile showroom.) The new version seemed to feature swivel hipped waiters and not much else to recommend it. It closed as well.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | August 25, 2017 1:01 PM |
I'm in my early 40s in NYC and I guess am the right age for this now.
The place always had a reputation for being sad, and now here I am, at the sad age.
I plan on committing suicide in the next year, so I won't have to face old age, isolation and invisibility.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | August 25, 2017 5:28 PM |
I love that at 47 I still feel young and desirable there haha.
But seriously it's a very pleasant place, it's a comfortable space with flattering lighting and no major attitudes from people. The regular customers seem very happy in each other's company. Not every place has to be Hell's Kitchen, you know. I respect these older guys because they're the guys who were hot in the 60s and 70s and survived it. They know that looks and youth are temporary.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | August 25, 2017 5:49 PM |
I'm 48 and I LOVE going there
by Anonymous | reply 87 | August 25, 2017 6:50 PM |
r22 It was an upscale 'Hooker' bar though. My friends thought they turn me out and I could earn extra money while I worked a real job during the day. I found out after one night that life wasn't for me. Loved the bar though.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | August 25, 2017 6:53 PM |
one time I went and a guy next to me got slapped at the bar
by Anonymous | reply 89 | August 25, 2017 7:02 PM |
r65, forgot to mention the corner of the room where the men sit there and shift their dentures.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | August 25, 2017 7:02 PM |
Why there is so much hate toward the elderly gay men here? Do you really think you will never be one? Well, that’s OK ... just as long as you don’t expect any flowers on your early grave from me. I’m 54 now and have been going on and off to the Townhouse Bar for over 25 years. Had many interesting conversations there, made some wonderful friends as well. A great laidback place to enjoy company of men, who do not act like the ultimate God’s gift to humanity. The bartenders are attitude free, very friendly and some quite funny (especially Eli, whose stories of Aretha, Tallulah and Bette are simply priceless). Rick is without a shadow of a doubt, the greatest piano player /entertainer I have ever seen. Many years ago, at the height of the “Les Mis” fever, he did a Carpenters’ take on “Bring Him Home”, which I will not forget till my final resting moment. And last, but not least, on Saturday nights, there is an elderly gentleman standing at the piano and singing a few old-fashioned tunes. Every time I see Eddie, I think of the many years he has lived as a gay man and how difficult it must have been in these times for men like him. A kind old man, that I look with an awe and respect. But I don’t think many of you ageist trolls here will understand that ... certainly not before dropping that delusional sense of self-adulation.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | August 25, 2017 7:30 PM |
Slapped at the bar? Was Alexis Colby visiting? Did he get a drink tossed in his face for good measure?
by Anonymous | reply 92 | August 25, 2017 7:31 PM |
[quote] Why there is so much hate toward the elderly gay men here? Do you really think you will never be one?
R91, I am 58.
Kisses,
R65
by Anonymous | reply 94 | August 25, 2017 7:44 PM |
I've only been one time a few years ago. It was a very nice atmosphere, flattering lighting as everyone mentions, and very strong drinks. It's like a fussy little country club or an Episcopalian funeral parlor, everyone dressed up a little and chugging drinks. Tassel loafers and blazers as far as the eye could see, myself included.
I had just turned 34 and was one of the youngest guys there by a long way. A few well dressed fossils bought me drinks, and I was very pleased with the whole experience. I love daddies and old men, but ended up taking an overdressed preppy guy my age back to hotel for some excellent rough sex.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | August 25, 2017 7:59 PM |
For everyone mocking eldergays, where do you expect them to go out? Would you prefer them at thumping HK bars?
by Anonymous | reply 96 | August 25, 2017 8:02 PM |
POSH just aint posh enuff
by Anonymous | reply 97 | August 25, 2017 9:31 PM |
R36, a colostomy bag. SURPRSE!
by Anonymous | reply 98 | August 25, 2017 11:03 PM |
little 40 year old twinks are fun to play with
by Anonymous | reply 101 | August 26, 2017 4:08 AM |
R101 What about 49 year old twins?
by Anonymous | reply 103 | August 26, 2017 9:03 PM |
"Tassel loafers" is everything you need to know about this place.
No surprise that numerous DLers hang out there.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 104 | August 26, 2017 9:07 PM |
The website layout looks like it was designed in 1999 and hasn't been updated since.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | August 26, 2017 9:08 PM |
"Tassel loafers" is everything you need to know about this place.
only after Labor Day, dearie, right now it's espadrilles
by Anonymous | reply 106 | August 26, 2017 9:10 PM |
Men who call other men "dearie" is the other thing you'd need to know about the place.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | August 26, 2017 9:13 PM |
I like going to the townhouse when Im in New York because the guys there have stories and wisdom that they are willing to share. That type of dialougue matters.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | August 26, 2017 9:16 PM |
Tim Gunn used to go there, but was supposedly very rude to everyone.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | August 26, 2017 9:41 PM |
I really pity you guys for never having the experience of Fedora's. It made the Frown House look like the youngest, hipest, place in NYC.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | August 26, 2017 10:09 PM |
I met an ancient queen who worked on the puppets on "The Sound of Music" movie. He was enchanting, like from another time. He was fascinating to talk to.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | August 26, 2017 10:21 PM |
R111, I know that person ;)
by Anonymous | reply 112 | August 26, 2017 10:24 PM |
what a small world after all!
by Anonymous | reply 113 | August 27, 2017 2:09 PM |
R91 I am HERE for the elder gays. They are the heart and soul of Data Lounge, and I suspect 90% of the bitter lemon, whip smart wit is a product of their savvy brains.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | August 27, 2017 2:40 PM |
Do Andy Cohen or Anderson Cooper or Alan Cummings or Thomas Roberts go there?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | August 27, 2017 2:49 PM |
No, but HRH Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia has been there in the past.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | August 27, 2017 2:57 PM |
Sounds like a great place.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | August 27, 2017 3:04 PM |
Actually And Cohen DOES pop in their from time to time. We go there around the holidays...the piano sing-a-longs get particularly epic that time of year. And we always see some level of celeb: Andy Cohen, Bryan Batt, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | August 27, 2017 3:04 PM |
r111, he lied to you. Julie Andrews and the child actors worked the puppets. I saw the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | August 27, 2017 3:08 PM |
I love the drama that ensues
by Anonymous | reply 120 | August 27, 2017 3:13 PM |
No he didn't say he actually performed the puppets, he did some technical thing or took care of them or something else. Maybe he dressed them :-)
Btw, he wore copious eyeliner. He was sort of Boys In The Band kind of figure. I just recently started going back to the TH after years absence, and I never see him now. I'll have to ask Rob my usual bartender what happened to him.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | August 27, 2017 3:14 PM |
Yes that's him. At one time he was voted NY's best dressed man. He does a line of jewelry now, I've corresponded with him via Instagram, he gets right back and will answer some of my obscure questions about his famous ancestors. His great grandmother was a Russian Grand Duchess. He's thoroughly royal on both sides of his family, and connected to nearly every royal House in Europe, with the exception of the princely Houses of Liechtenstein and Monaco. And even those he might have connections going back centuries.
Anyway, his price points were out of my budget so I couldn't buy anything from his collection. He lives nearby, I could wind up seeing him on the sidewalk one day, who knows.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | August 27, 2017 3:25 PM |
Upscale? Lol. A fun place when you take it for what it is- a real throwback that could only thrive in NYC in 2017.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | August 27, 2017 3:28 PM |
R91, I will never be one. I will kill myself the day I turn 50. Or even beter I will buy a farm and take care of it. Certainly I will not go to a bar, all dressed up with tacky clothes, pretend I am attractive and try to pick up men 30 years younger than I am.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | August 27, 2017 3:38 PM |
Actually I found a line connecting Prince Dimitri to the House of Grimaldi. The Grimaldis have a line of descent from the House of Baden, which has a line of descent from the Danish royal House. Dimitri's grandmother Princess Paul was born a princess of Greece and Denmark. It's a long long descent from a shared ancestor, but I think I'm right if the Wikipedia entries for all ancestors are correct.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | August 27, 2017 3:55 PM |
Wow, but that Prince looks spectacularly elegant.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | August 27, 2017 4:02 PM |
Does having a colonostomy bag eliminate the need for douching?
by Anonymous | reply 129 | August 27, 2017 4:03 PM |
[quote] Does having a colonostomy bag eliminate the need for douching?
Then this is working out well for all concerned.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 131 | August 27, 2017 4:33 PM |
No [125], you will not do neither - one takes courage, the other hard labor. You will most likely turn into an old grumpy queen, like all of the youth worshipers here. I’m fortunately not one of them ... and since turning 49, these are the best years of my life! Believe you me, I would never, ever want to be 25 again. At 54, I do look my age and I’m proud of every wrinkle on my face - these are the signs of wisdom I have acquired throughout my life. These days, I don’t go on the cock chase anymore just to prove my own appeal and don’t give a shit if others find me attractive or not. Use my time wisely, on hobbies and cultural activities. And every single day I ride a motorcycle, with an attached speaker, blasting the old good rock’n’roll that brings a lot of warm smiles from the passersby. One of them once screamed at me “Long live youth!”
by Anonymous | reply 135 | August 27, 2017 5:24 PM |
[quote]No he didn't say he actually performed the puppets, he did some technical thing or took care of them or something else. Maybe he dressed them :-)
So, he was a puppet wrangler? Okaaaaaaaaaay.
I went there when I was in my 20's not knowing that it was a hustler bar. They swarmed me the second I entered the place. I must have gotten 15 business cards that night. I ended up going on a date with a super wealthy interior designer who's regularly featured in Architectural Digest. He took me to the famous restaurant at the Four Seasons hotel. He took me on several trips that must have cost $50k in all.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | August 27, 2017 5:27 PM |
So it paid off nicely for you, R135.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | August 27, 2017 6:17 PM |
How often did you have to put out, R136?
by Anonymous | reply 138 | August 27, 2017 6:46 PM |
R135, I want to kill my self even more after I red your post. I guess having erectile dysfunction after age of 50 is an act of mercy. That way will no longer have the craving for what you can't get.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | August 27, 2017 7:00 PM |
Would this bar /establishment be a welcoming good place for gay tourists wanting to experience some nightlife?
by Anonymous | reply 140 | August 27, 2017 7:01 PM |
R136, did you you have to suck his dick, was his ass saggy. How did you cope with the smell of his arthritis creme?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | August 27, 2017 7:04 PM |
The line between hustler and not is very thin.
Sure you might not be directly paying for sex, but when you are throwing lots of money around to get a guy to sleep with you it is still essentially getting a rentboy, just by another name.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | August 27, 2017 7:06 PM |
[R135], I want to kill my self even more after I red your post. I guess having erectile dysfunction after age of 50 is an act of mercy. That way will no longer have the craving for what you can't get.
oh sonny so much for you to learn. ED means it doesn't get hard, it doesn't mean the craving goes away.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | August 27, 2017 7:13 PM |
Oh wow, it is even worse then, cravings without hard on. Blessed are those who can experience G-spot orgasm.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | August 27, 2017 7:30 PM |
Cravings without an erection is torture.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | August 27, 2017 8:18 PM |
worse for tops than for bottoms
by Anonymous | reply 147 | August 27, 2017 8:19 PM |
Exactly. I'm speaking from experience, damn my blood pressure pill.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | August 27, 2017 8:22 PM |
R139, you just need some adventure in your life! I hear that Iraq is lovely this time of year. Why not give it a try? Or Syria.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | August 27, 2017 8:44 PM |
R148, if that's the sole cause, aren't there other meds that don't have that side effect? Or maybe some cialis?
by Anonymous | reply 150 | August 27, 2017 8:52 PM |
My twenty something friend went to the graveyard as we call the Townhouse. He left covered in drool.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | August 27, 2017 8:52 PM |
This reminds me of the bar in Dublin, The George, where there is a smaller room on the first floor they call "Jurassic Park." I accidentally walked in there when I was in my late 20 and I think everyone was staring at me trying to figure out what I was doing there. It didn't seem like there were hookers in there. There's actually a bouncer who sort of stands in front of the door - but mostly to keep the two areas separate (and possibly to keep the Brazilian hookers out). Now that I am older, I like that section actually, but I am still "too young" for the core demographic in there. They're much more friendly & talkative than the rest of The George in there. Both bars used to be friendly, but then apps / smart phones came along and nobody will look at you except in the "eldergay" bar.
It's interesting to go because everyone knows everyone within 1 or 2 connections, within the whole city. So, people are on their best behavior - unlike the younger gays and their ability to block you on apps (their only method of communication). I like talking to people but don't really want to have sex with random people from bars these days - and in Ireland it's a little easier to do that because everyone is friendly and talkative without expectation. If you have a conversation with someone in an American bar for more than 15 min, it seems like they expect you'll go home with them or that you're sending "mixed signals" just because you're talking.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | August 27, 2017 8:55 PM |
R135 you are simply way beyond stupid. Nowhere, in my previous post I have indicated any sexual irregularities, and you may be projecting something that I hope stays strictly between you and your shrink. Learning proper grammar wouldn’t hurt either.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | August 27, 2017 9:20 PM |
I've heard the piano lounge of the TH referred to as "the embalming chamber" because the older patrons like to hang out there and listen to the piano player. Cruel.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | August 27, 2017 9:24 PM |
Years ago, I was Midtown with a pal after a business attire event, and we stopped in out of curiosity, as we were both actually downtown East Village twinks. We both hooked up with a pair of suited handsome older gents (and went off separately). Mine worked for a Dem. senator in Albany. We had suit & tie semi-clothed sex years before the Men At Play trend. Fun!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 156 | August 27, 2017 9:30 PM |
If you are a hot but poor guy looking for a wealthy benefactor, it is the perfect place to go.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | August 27, 2017 9:37 PM |
We didn't take money, but we each joked about that possibility later.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | August 27, 2017 9:41 PM |
[quote][R136], are you a hustler?
NO, I'm not, nor have I ever been a hustler. The guy in question was only 20 years older than me, which isn't a huge age difference in the gay world. He was handsome and in-shape. I wanted to have sex with him and we had a great sex life. I'm also into interior design and art, so I was immediately attracted to him.
Why does everyone assume that you're a hustler or a gold-digger if there's an age difference? It's so juvenile.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | August 27, 2017 9:44 PM |
[quote]Why does everyone assume that you're a hustler or a gold-digger if there's an age difference?
Says the person who immediately bragged about the nice dinners and expensive trips he took you on. But yes, there was nothing in the least gold-digging about it...
[quote]It's so juvenile.
Or realistic...
by Anonymous | reply 161 | August 27, 2017 9:47 PM |
I got it wrong, the prince who goes to the TH is related to the princely family of Monaco via Denmark as I said, but not via a Swedish connection. It's through a long connection through the Houses of Holstein-Gotturp, Hesse-Darmstadt, and finally House of Baden which is was Prince Rainier's grandfather's maternal line.
At any rate, fascinating stuff to me. I guess it's no wonder I'm a Townhouse patron, I'm into farty old royal history :-)
by Anonymous | reply 163 | August 27, 2017 10:32 PM |
Thanks for the correction R163, now....is the prince hung?
by Anonymous | reply 164 | August 27, 2017 10:34 PM |
R163, are you also into farty old royals?
by Anonymous | reply 165 | August 27, 2017 10:39 PM |
How many of these accomplished men are wearing fake Rolexes?
A LOT, I would guess.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | August 27, 2017 10:56 PM |
How many prissy crass materialistic queens would notice a fake Rolex?
ONE, we see.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | August 27, 2017 11:13 PM |
Just because The Townhouse doesn't have EDM blasting loudly from speakers all around the place, do not think this place is "upscale." It isn't. It's pretty much a dump, but it's decor ham handedly aspires to something vaguely British and aristocratic. 'Shall we to the hounds,' and all that. Puh-leeze. Iit is a poor man's idea of what that all would be.
it's just a bar., a bar that made a marketing choice to target guys in suits who want to able to talk to one another. Good luck finding other bars in NYC where you don't have to shout to be heard by the person next to you.
Bring back Regent East. It had the New York vibe that The Townhouse always aped and could never deliver.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | August 27, 2017 11:20 PM |
Wait a minute, there, R152...
A bar in Dublin with a doorman to keep out BRAZILIAN hookers?
Are there THAT many Brazilian hookers in Dublin to make it necessary to have a bouncer?
by Anonymous | reply 169 | August 27, 2017 11:24 PM |
As someone who's spent time in Dublin and who has Grindr, yes, there are quite a lot of Brazilian. It can be hard to tell the Latin American aesthetic from the hooker aesthetic, but my nosey ass did check on one of the hook up sites with an escort section, and there was more than a handful of said Brazilians with escort profiles.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | August 27, 2017 11:28 PM |
are they there for waxing?
by Anonymous | reply 172 | August 27, 2017 11:31 PM |
i hope not. save the gingers!
by Anonymous | reply 173 | August 27, 2017 11:32 PM |
A Brazilian in Dublin sent me his xxx pics and they were professionally done, could've been from G magazine. We're peers so I don't think he was fishing for work, but I didn't pursue it.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | August 27, 2017 11:33 PM |
If I go to Dublin, I know what kind of hookers I want!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 175 | August 27, 2017 11:33 PM |
I think it's easier to get into Ireland to study English than the UK.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | August 27, 2017 11:34 PM |
R172, "are they,there for waxing?"
No, they thought they were going to Hireland.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | August 27, 2017 11:36 PM |
There is definitely a large Brazilian community in Dublin.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 178 | August 27, 2017 11:36 PM |
Back in the late 80's, my friends and I in NJ would go into NYC. We'd start at The Monster for happy hour at the piano bar. Next, we went to Boots and Saddles which usually had a few really hot men. Then it was off to The Spike to see some really sleezy, sexy guys (we usually lost one or two of us there.) But I almost always held out til the end of the night for The Townhouse where there would usually be one or two really handsome, older guys, ( I was always into older guys) mixed in among the last call queens. I met some great men there. Went back with some friends two years ago with my husband and it was very disappointing. You can't go home again.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | August 27, 2017 11:47 PM |
At least it was nice for the old farts there, when they saw that you had not changed at all in 30 years.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | August 27, 2017 11:54 PM |
Brazilians go to "English language schools" in Ireland due to a former loophole in the visa laws that allowed them to work if they are considered students. Most of the schools were recently shut down because they were just fronts for Brazilians to get access to Ireland's job market and work there. Still, somehow 1/3 (it seems like) of the gay scene in Dublin is now Brazilian - when it was maybe 2% ten years ago.
The two cultures are oil and water. Brazilians are far more superficial, can't make conversation, have limited education / knowledge of world events, don't speak English well, have no sense of humor, and are often rude with no manners / politeness. Irish guys (on average) are the opposite of everything I just listed, except for many of the 20-somethings.
The "Jurassic Park" section of the George doesn't want to be overrun by people like this since they are there to talk to their friends, not be solicited. If they really wanted it, they can go online were the majority of the hookers in Dublin are Brazilian anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | August 28, 2017 12:27 AM |
many people come and go and never find out where they have been
by Anonymous | reply 183 | August 28, 2017 1:42 AM |
This thread has been quite educational!
by Anonymous | reply 184 | August 28, 2017 1:47 AM |
mentoring the young has always been our calling
by Anonymous | reply 185 | August 28, 2017 2:06 AM |
slapping faces only happens after ten PM
by Anonymous | reply 186 | August 28, 2017 2:47 AM |
Are women not permitted is accompanied by their gay gentlemen friends?
by Anonymous | reply 187 | August 28, 2017 7:56 AM |
Fellow old queens, I used to go to this bar everytime I went to NYC. Even in my late 20's. After the show.Fun times Listening to the showtunes at the bar. In my 30's, picked up a some age guy.Went back to my hotel. Turns out he was an amaphrodite( double the fun .) He started crying as I sent him packing. Have not thought Of that in years.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | August 28, 2017 1:01 PM |
Anyone see Charles Gross there with his wrinkle room no-sex sugar daddy?
by Anonymous | reply 189 | August 28, 2017 2:35 PM |
I saw him after the operation
by Anonymous | reply 190 | August 28, 2017 3:05 PM |
Some of my finest memories have been of being at the Townhouse with my escort, sipping a Side Car and listening to Merv Griffin on the Victrola.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | August 28, 2017 4:53 PM |
R187, please don't ask one of your gentlemen callers to take you there. Let the guys have their spaces. As an old lesbian, I remember the days when boys and girls had their separate spaces, and how grand that was. In the 1970s Castro District , the guys made it very plain that we were an unwelcome distraction...I stepped in only once. Leave the older men to enjoy their bar without the distraction of gawking frauen with little to contribute.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | August 28, 2017 11:00 PM |
Bump for the most elegant wrinkle room in America!
by Anonymous | reply 196 | August 30, 2017 5:05 AM |
Here's my question about this kind of place. If you are in your 30s, can you just go in and talk to people or are they going to think you are looking for free drinks, a sugar daddy or sex? My friend goes in there, but I don't live in NYC. He says the guys are nice and all buy him drinks because he's just new and there aren't that many new faces in there (I sent him this thread which he thinks is hilarious - he also thinks DL is the online version of this bar) . I would go with him the next time I'm there, but I hate when guys think I want to sleep with them just because I say hi. I like these kinds of places way more than clubs or bars full of cunty gays on their phones who can't talk.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | August 30, 2017 6:20 AM |
I haven't been in years, but if you go, it's fun to chat with elders and get a free drink. I like it when older guys flirt. It makes me feel young! Mostly that just happens at Julius' or The Monster.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 198 | August 30, 2017 6:25 AM |
yes, it's a comfy low-key place that is warm and welcoming, most guys won't care if you are looking for a free drink. one will most likely be offered, without strings. it's easy enough to read the vibe, if you're looking for a one night sugar daddy, you'll likely find him. if you just want to chat or listen to the music, that's fine too. you can go home with another younglin, or alone. if you're polite and friendly, it will most likely be returned, if you come with attitude or "let's visit the zoo", then fuck you (and not in the good way)
by Anonymous | reply 199 | August 30, 2017 6:26 AM |
That's good. I think I might accidentally give off "I am interested" vibes because I am very very talkative. I just ordered a sofa at this custom place & it took a few visits & back & forth to get right, and then the decorator invited me to a concert. Maybe he was just doing it as a friendly gesture though. It's not the first time it has happened, and I personally do not think it has to do with my looks. I think I just talk a lot more than most people & it looks like I want something out of them. On the other hand, there are people who think I am ADD or have a touch of the mania given my communication style.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | August 30, 2017 6:31 AM |
we're very attentive to our younger visitors
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 201 | August 30, 2017 6:37 AM |
Is there a link to that video....
by Anonymous | reply 202 | August 30, 2017 6:46 AM |
Both Prince Dimitri & Andy Cohen hang at the Townhouse and after a few cocktails easy to take home for sex! HRH Prince Dimitri is very hot, great body, nice guy and hungry wild+++ bottom! While Andy Cohen is passed his prime & boring in and out of bed. His dog would have been hotter to gave sex with!
by Anonymous | reply 204 | August 30, 2017 8:42 AM |
Sexy Prince Dimitri at his UES home.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 205 | August 30, 2017 8:49 AM |
He's got a twin too, just as handsome.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | August 30, 2017 3:04 PM |
The Prince is hot! Are there a lot of rich single hot princes at the Townhouse?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 208 | August 31, 2017 10:10 PM |
You wouldn't believe how royal he is, barely a drop of commoner blood on either side of his family. More royal than the Windsors, really.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | August 31, 2017 11:04 PM |
any drop of commoner semen?
by Anonymous | reply 210 | August 31, 2017 11:11 PM |
I take that back, he's got some non-royal blood in the paternal line. He's a descendant of Prince Alexander Karadordevic who was elected King of Serbia in 1842, born the son of an illiterate peasant who rose in prominence as a revolutionary figure. Alexander was married to a commoner woman too, the daughter of a governor. Dimitri's line comes from Alexander's son Prince Arsen, who married a Russian princess of non-royal blood. But Prince Arsen's son Paul married Princess Olga of Greece, a descendant of the royal houses of Greece, Denmark, Russia, and the German grand duchy of Mecklenburg-Strelitz.
On his mother's side though, there's all the royal houses represented; Italy, Belgium, France, Austria, Sardinia, Coburg, Saxony, Bavaria, The Two Sicilies, Montenegro, and many more. A small slice of non-royal blood comes from the consort of Dimitri's ancestor King Nicolai of Montenegro, he married the daughter of a governor.
Still, it's a very interesting heritage. Full of history!
by Anonymous | reply 211 | August 31, 2017 11:49 PM |
Question about royal twins. So, if you are the older twin, only by a minute or two, are you still first in line for the throne?
by Anonymous | reply 212 | August 31, 2017 11:51 PM |
I've been going there on and off since they opened. The first time I was wearing ripped jeans and the doorman told me "Any ungentle manly behavior would not be tolerated." Ha. Twice I had a run in with David Hampton, the guy who "Six Degrees of Separation" is based. I called him out on his bull shit. The place is a bar, with some good piano players (Michael Farrari) and some shitty piano players. It's like an old school country club vibe. Yes, there are older men there, after all it's the UES, not HK or LES. Who cares. It's a fun place, you can have a conversation, meet people, or belt out a tune. Sure, call it the Wrinkle Room, or the Clownhouse, I don't think it's swarming with hookers...It's a "Gentleman's" bar. On a side note, the younger of the two owners (this was a while ago) liked to fool around at the gym.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | September 1, 2017 4:47 AM |
must have been a while, David Hampton died of AIDS-related complications while being treated for his illness at Beth Israel Hospital in Manhattan. in 2003
by Anonymous | reply 215 | September 1, 2017 5:45 AM |
r212, depending no, if you are a female. Depends on the country.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | September 1, 2017 6:03 AM |
You senile queens ... this topic is not about "faked" royalty, but about a great gay bar Townhouse. Get your act together bitches!
by Anonymous | reply 217 | September 3, 2017 3:59 AM |
I was there tonight and has an amazing time! One of the few bars left that you can talk to be people and gay men of all ages & sizes can interact.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | September 3, 2017 8:13 AM |
Is there still a policy where you can't wear jeans and have to wear a suit jacket?
by Anonymous | reply 219 | September 3, 2017 6:58 PM |
The restroom urinal gives zero privacy. There's a huge mirror above the sink that reflects the partition-less urinal, I'm sure it's by design. I use the stall, I'm a little modest.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | September 3, 2017 10:56 PM |
and presumably, have a small dick
by Anonymous | reply 222 | September 3, 2017 10:57 PM |
A grower not a show-er, yes.
by Anonymous | reply 223 | September 3, 2017 11:11 PM |
The King of Siam is another frequent guest of the Townhouse. The purity of his blood is apparent just in his bearing and demeanor. It is really something to behold.
by Anonymous | reply 224 | September 4, 2017 1:10 AM |
Wouldn't surprise me. Actually he's had HIV rumors for years. Anyway, look at his wasting face.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 225 | September 4, 2017 1:17 AM |
He looked that way when he was 12 years old.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | September 4, 2017 1:25 AM |
Is the wealthy and handsome Prince Dimitri to be found nightly at the Townhouse? Sounds like the Townhouse is the place to meet the perfect husband.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 227 | September 5, 2017 7:19 AM |
Townhouse sounds like Monster on Christopher St.
by Anonymous | reply 228 | September 5, 2017 7:34 AM |
R224, Don't they call it Thailand now?
by Anonymous | reply 229 | September 5, 2017 8:45 AM |
Isn't the King of Thailand the one who is covered in tattoos?
Dos anyone know if Prince Dmitri is related to Princess Elizabeth who is Catherine Oxenberg's mother?
by Anonymous | reply 230 | September 5, 2017 9:09 AM |
Yes she is his aunt, making Catherine Oldenburg his paternal first cousin.
by Anonymous | reply 231 | September 5, 2017 12:32 PM |
The Townhouse and The Monster both share a certain moldy odor, I'm not being a wise guy and saying it's from the patrons. But I can definitely smell it, I wonder if it's because they aren't well lit.
by Anonymous | reply 232 | September 5, 2017 12:39 PM |
I love the Townhouse. One of the last classy places for men of all ages to meet.
by Anonymous | reply 233 | September 6, 2017 8:44 AM |
I want to visit NYC this fall... it's been ages since I was there. I expect we can have a DL meetup there then? Proper attire required (finest hand woven caftans only).
by Anonymous | reply 234 | September 6, 2017 8:47 AM |
R230, the King of Thailand is Prince Dmitri's fourth cousin once removed.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | September 6, 2017 8:48 AM |
Prince Dimitri will have the slings & paddles ready for the DL after party!
by Anonymous | reply 236 | September 7, 2017 7:59 AM |
Really fun place if your not an obnoxious young jerk.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | September 7, 2017 12:38 PM |
Just home from another delightful Saturday night with friends at the Toenhouse. Lots of handsome and sexy men of all ages there tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | September 10, 2017 9:10 AM |
Connecticut expatriate here. I remember the days in the early seventies when, as a twenty something, I would take the train in for happy hour, with a razor and a toothbrush in my jacket pocket. Sometimes I'd be back on the last train. Sometimes I'd close the place and wait at some all night diner until the first train at 5:40 am.
If I got lucky sometimes I'd be back on Saturday, Sunday, or even directly to work on Monday morning. Good times, until they weren't.
by Anonymous | reply 240 | September 10, 2017 9:35 PM |
For some reason your post got me a little, R240. I realized the other day that coming of age in the 80s, as I did, was really like being locked in two closets--one built around the fear of coming out and the other around the specter of AIDS. I mean, I've always felt grateful that I was lucky enough to get the message at a young age so that I could take steps to protect myself--but I do think living your teenage years as a gay guy in the 1980s was a rather singular experience. Anyway, I hope those times in the 70s were indeed good for you and I'm glad you made it through to the other side.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | September 10, 2017 10:31 PM |
Thanks for your good thoughts, R241. Like many others, I lost a lot of friends in the 80's, gone before their time. Sometimes think that one of the reasons there are so many depressing and crabby eldergays now is that most of the fun ones died off.
I owe my survival to the fact that I'm kind of a prude sexually and never was into particularly risky activities, and once I learned that I was negative, I was determined to stay that way.
I'm in my mid-seventies now, have been very fortunate in my career and my relationships. And I still like to go to the Townhouse once in a while when I'm in NYC.
by Anonymous | reply 242 | September 11, 2017 1:02 AM |
I when I get into New York for business, I try to stop in at the Townhouse. I am in a suit and tie; my clothes come from a department store since we don't have a Brooks Brothers nearby. My clothes and my Appalachian accent seem to keep hustlers at bay.
I also like the Monster when I am in New York. Both places seem to cater to men who want to talk to the men sitting next to them. not necessarily to dance with them
by Anonymous | reply 243 | September 11, 2017 1:18 AM |
Wow R241, that's pretty eye-opening. I can only imagine how hard it was to be gay in that era and it explains why so many guys were in the closet. Fear of dying will do that to you.
I've heard guys your age say they tested negative in the early 80s and basically gave up sex for the next ten years. Or limited themselves to hand jobs.
Sorry seems trite, but it's from the heart.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | September 11, 2017 1:36 AM |
Not trite at all, R244; I appreciate your understanding. Plus you're absolutely right. My, uh, repertoire was very limited until I was about 30. And R240/R242, it sounds like you've had a great life--no crabby eldergay you!
by Anonymous | reply 245 | September 11, 2017 9:31 PM |
So what is the Townhouse like on a regular Tuesday night?
by Anonymous | reply 246 | September 16, 2017 6:23 PM |
Always someone sexy to take home from there.
by Anonymous | reply 247 | September 16, 2017 11:02 PM |
friendly as always, just less busy
by Anonymous | reply 248 | September 16, 2017 11:09 PM |
From my email:
Happy Fall!
Here are some events going on at Townhouse that you just can't miss!
Thursday October 12th: Oktoberfest @ the Townhouse!!!
The hottest lederhosen in town worn by our sexy bartenders. German appetizers galore! Drink specials on all German Beers! The party of the season!
Saturday October 28th: Halloween @ the Townhouse!
Winner takes it all!
Our annual costume contest where the Grand Prize Winner takes home $500!!!!!
All of our bartenders will be dressed in their BEST costumes!
Every Friday and Saturday: Come see the hottest boys in town @ in our Down Under Room!
Hats allowed downstairs, enjoy some of Today's best music with our Down Under DJ!
($10 Drink Ticket with Entry)
10 PM - 2 AM
Drum Role Please!
Introducing, by popular demand, the Down Under Room!
Our downstairs is currently expanding!
We are still open for business as usual, but we are renovating to make the size bigger to host your upcoming seasonal private parties!
Contact management at any time @ michael@townhouseny.com to set up a viewing to host your private party!
Have you had time to check out our Facebook? Get the latest updates every week on our Facebook @ Townhouse Bar NYC
Regards,
Michael
by Anonymous | reply 250 | September 28, 2017 12:16 AM |
This has been one of the best threads I’ve ever read on DL. It has made me laugh and wonder and smile. I so want to visit The Townhouse now. I love eldergays— I am one myself at 51. Young men, if you don’t have some old gay friends you don’t know what you’re missing, wafting ungurnt odors aside lol. I wish the place well!
by Anonymous | reply 251 | September 28, 2017 1:54 AM |
oh honey, at 51 you are just entering your ladhood, come sit by me and i'll buy you a drink
by Anonymous | reply 253 | September 28, 2017 3:13 AM |
Great time around the piano last night.
by Anonymous | reply 254 | September 29, 2017 3:21 PM |
R254, were you chased or the one chasing?
by Anonymous | reply 255 | September 29, 2017 3:34 PM |
Friendliest bar in NYC! I go there and beer bust at th eagle
by Anonymous | reply 256 | September 29, 2017 3:35 PM |
I smells musty in there sometimes, and I don't mean the men. Like the smell of a long enclosed chamber.
by Anonymous | reply 257 | September 29, 2017 5:05 PM |
Forensic Files just ran their episode on the Last Caller Killer (I mean, it just ended a few minutes ago! Spooky....
by Anonymous | reply 260 | October 8, 2017 4:34 AM |
Townhouse has become one of the friendliest bars in NYC. One of the last places you can live to another gay man!
by Anonymous | reply 261 | October 13, 2017 4:36 AM |
I'm going to NYC this weekend. I may check it out.
by Anonymous | reply 262 | October 13, 2017 5:00 AM |
Ok, think I'm going tonight. Haven't been there in about 13 years. Since then I've crossed over from "you look young for your age" to silver haired "daddy" (I'm 45) so it will be interesting.
I will not be wearing any kind of neckwear or tasseled loafers...will I be permitted entrance??
by Anonymous | reply 263 | October 14, 2017 2:20 PM |
we gladly welcome lads of 45, regardless of attire
by Anonymous | reply 264 | October 14, 2017 3:13 PM |
My husband likes to go and sing at the Tiwnhouse.
by Anonymous | reply 265 | October 20, 2017 7:29 PM |
I've been wanting to revive the Regency neckcloth but didn't know where to wear it without getting beat up. Would the gentlemen at The Townhouse admire it?
You must admit, it is very dashing.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 266 | October 20, 2017 9:52 PM |
r263, I believe it is a blazer joint, where you pull out your Gucci [Tom Ford, not current Gucci] black slim wallet for your credit card.
by Anonymous | reply 267 | October 21, 2017 2:22 AM |
Dreadful website. Lederhosen and go-go boys... so upscale.
by Anonymous | reply 268 | October 21, 2017 2:41 AM |
R266, I'll admit it looks like a neck brace.
by Anonymous | reply 269 | October 21, 2017 2:59 AM |
r268, they do themes for fun. Octoberfest? Plus they have a dungeon of sorts.
by Anonymous | reply 270 | October 21, 2017 3:16 AM |
what does on in the dungeon? are you sure?
by Anonymous | reply 271 | October 21, 2017 11:51 AM |
I had very confused experienced when I was there as a 21 years old alone on a Saturday night during summer. There were a lot of women and groups of men in their 30s. I like men purely in their 50s - 60s and the reviews promised me all of that ! There were a couple of men I liked there but all already engaged in a conversation with someone else. Guess I need a professional wingman next time.
by Anonymous | reply 273 | December 26, 2017 10:22 PM |
Picked up a cute cubby Doctor from Fla there. He was in a great grey custom suit. Wish I could remember his name.
by Anonymous | reply 274 | December 26, 2017 11:10 PM |
Lots of rich young hot Eurotrash to fuck there?
by Anonymous | reply 275 | December 30, 2017 12:05 PM |
There's always a line at the urinals. What with the prostate issues...
But I've been there and everyone was friendly and great.
by Anonymous | reply 276 | December 30, 2017 12:09 PM |
Is Prince Dimetry stil hanging at the piano?
by Anonymous | reply 278 | March 20, 2018 6:19 AM |
R252 "unguent"
Isn't that an animal that chews its cud?
by Anonymous | reply 279 | March 20, 2018 7:01 AM |
Do the Andys go here yet or are they still "Twink Adjacent"?
by Anonymous | reply 280 | April 7, 2018 2:58 AM |
I would totally have fun with Prince Dimitri.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | April 7, 2018 3:03 AM |
Rounds was the best bar ever. seductive with them old oval leather cozy nooks to sit in, ok food
too bad it was shut own by the bitch judge who moved in down the street . had been there for ever ..fun old lady piano singers and hot hores. that was my go to spot fer hores, and another sleezy one called Zelda or Selma or sumthin like that , near times sq.
LORD I MISS THE GAIETY.
TOWNHOUSE IS OK BUT BIT OF BORE..
by Anonymous | reply 282 | April 7, 2018 3:21 AM |
It seems an interesting establishment. I've never been to a piano bar before and would probably really enjoy it sometime. I also enjoy the company of handsome mature men with panache.
by Anonymous | reply 283 | April 7, 2018 3:46 AM |
I am love with Prince Dimitri! Long live the townhouse!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 284 | April 7, 2018 5:04 AM |
When I lived in Manhattan, its nickname was "Heaven's Waiting Room."
by Anonymous | reply 285 | April 7, 2018 5:06 AM |
was 21 when I first went
elder queens were all over me. could name my price
highly recommend it for lads wanting to make a few grande....lotsa famous old richies...
by Anonymous | reply 286 | April 7, 2018 5:09 AM |
I am 25, tall, hot and muscular and love the diversity of guys old and young there!
by Anonymous | reply 287 | April 7, 2018 5:11 AM |
R286, How famous? Any ever discussed on DL?
by Anonymous | reply 288 | April 7, 2018 5:13 AM |
HRH Prince Dimitri is a regular. I have meet him there several times & had hot sex with him. He is one of the hottest & very wild bottoms in NYC!
by Anonymous | reply 289 | April 7, 2018 7:21 AM |
I met who i swear was tom selleck bak in the seventys. he was in disguise, he was very odd....
was hustler huntin,
by Anonymous | reply 290 | April 7, 2018 1:45 PM |
[quote] bak in the seventys
Oh my.
by Anonymous | reply 291 | April 7, 2018 2:50 PM |
Gee, ARod looked a bit stunned in Prince Dimitri's presence.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 292 | April 7, 2018 2:55 PM |
Better link for you, R292.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 293 | April 7, 2018 2:57 PM |
OP you win for most perfect DL thread topic
by Anonymous | reply 295 | April 7, 2018 4:50 PM |
That whole block on E. 58th street is gay. There's another gay bar across the street from the Townhouse, gay restaurants, and the rest of the businesses are gay designer galleries.
by Anonymous | reply 296 | April 7, 2018 11:30 PM |
I am love with the handsome Prince. The opportunity to meet a sexy man like him is a reason to go to the townhouse.
by Anonymous | reply 297 | April 8, 2018 12:20 AM |
I miss the Rounds also, someone should write a book about it and the Gaiety....fun times. Never seen any other places like em...
by Anonymous | reply 298 | April 8, 2018 5:28 AM |
Thank you for the posting. I went to the Townhouse Saturday night and meet a very sexy older man in his 50's there. (I am 28) spent all day Sunday with him and looking forward to a dinner date Friday.
by Anonymous | reply 299 | April 9, 2018 8:55 AM |
Was he one of the royals, R299?
by Anonymous | reply 300 | April 9, 2018 1:17 PM |
I went there years ago, when I was in my late 20's... now mid 40's. I did get hit on by a few older types (ascot types) and then I left rather quickly. It did feel like a funeral parlor, although a very clubby funeral parlor.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | April 9, 2018 2:16 PM |
I met a boy there who had been hired often by sigfried and roy, and was flown to vegas to be with them. before the accident. he was hot and smart and a great guy....HUNG love to see him again. jus know he aged well and looks sooper dooper
by Anonymous | reply 302 | April 9, 2018 2:36 PM |
Coincidentally, I'm writing a history of gay nyc bars called TOWNHOUSE OR ROUNDS? keep the storys a cumin
any places to find info bout them?
by Anonymous | reply 303 | April 10, 2018 12:09 AM |
[quote] I went there years ago, when I was in my late 20's... now mid 40's.
Go there again now, R301, now that you're older and see if you feel the same way.
by Anonymous | reply 306 | April 10, 2018 2:32 AM |
It is now the best bar to find a handsome husband or boyfriend.
by Anonymous | reply 307 | April 10, 2018 4:48 AM |
hired to fuk and suk both of them, and their hot friends, it was wild he said and his tits and hole were sore for weeks. very well paid for the weekend
by Anonymous | reply 308 | April 10, 2018 10:40 AM |
You are 100% correct R181 - I have lived in countries with large Brazilian communities and I have never met a more superficial, vacuous, self-serving and treacherous bunch of people than the fucking Brazilians. There are exceptions, of course, but generally that's who they are - vile people. Their country is the corrupt, violent cesspool that it is because they are mostly morally bankrupt assholes.
Ever known another nation that had the officially sanctioned and widely supported killing of its street children, as occurred in the 80s and 90s? That's Brazil and the Brazilians for you.
Oh, and there are of course very hot and sexy Brazilians, but the vast majority are fucking ugly, dumpy and badly-shaped.
How very depressing to hear that the gay scene in a city as genuinely friendly as Dublin is overrun with Brazilians - the poor Irish!
by Anonymous | reply 309 | April 10, 2018 11:31 AM |
my worst whores were Brazilians, they demand $ up front and don't deliver the ass.
bummer!!
theyr all str8 con men workiin the white man
by Anonymous | reply 310 | April 10, 2018 10:44 PM |
I wonder if Cubans would be any worse if they were liberated from their dictatorship.
by Anonymous | reply 311 | April 10, 2018 11:55 PM |
Downstairs at the Townhousd always good place for sex with a trick
by Anonymous | reply 312 | April 13, 2018 4:26 AM |
one memorable night a kid was buck naked and 5 old men were devouring him.....
awesome
by Anonymous | reply 313 | April 13, 2018 4:29 AM |
It USED to be, R312, now they use that space for gogo dancer on weekends, and on the other nights they keep it closed down.
by Anonymous | reply 314 | April 13, 2018 4:47 AM |
I went there once, in April 2001. I was 36 and my boyfriend was 25. Back then, we were two of the youngest patrons by far. There were a few fruit flies in the company of their chicken-hawk patrons, but most of the crowd was elderly.
The boyfriend had heard that the pianist played show tunes, and his love of Broadway shows is his only publicly discernible gay trait, so off we went. No desire to return. Sounds like it hasn't changed much.
by Anonymous | reply 315 | April 13, 2018 4:56 AM |
in the 90s I made a grande one nite in the toilet, old men sukin me all over...
by Anonymous | reply 316 | April 13, 2018 1:46 PM |
[quote]I made a grande one nite in the toilet
Turd or trick?
by Anonymous | reply 317 | April 13, 2018 1:51 PM |
I meet a young Saudi Prince there and dated him for a few years.
by Anonymous | reply 318 | April 14, 2018 7:20 AM |
I went last night and went home with a hot muscular couple in their mid-30s.
by Anonymous | reply 320 | April 15, 2018 6:34 AM |
Bully for you, R320. Now go check for herpes.
by Anonymous | reply 321 | April 15, 2018 7:12 PM |
I have meet several boyfriends there and I am under 40!
by Anonymous | reply 322 | April 22, 2018 9:12 AM |
This place is probably the most unique in NYC. A classy Elder/hustler bar in front, a piano bar in the back, a stripper lounge downstairs....it's worth the price of admission, but wait there is no cover charge, just a Dress Code!
by Anonymous | reply 323 | April 23, 2018 7:31 AM |
Early 20s guy going there on Friday. What should I expect? I am worried people may mistake me for a hooker.
by Anonymous | reply 324 | May 1, 2018 2:14 PM |
All the hookers are online, on Rentmen.com, not at any bar!
by Anonymous | reply 325 | May 2, 2018 6:44 AM |
It's packed on Saturday night!!!
by Anonymous | reply 326 | May 2, 2018 9:52 AM |
ive gone numerous times but ive not seen a whore I would pay
the queens in suits,, even the young ones, are repulsive and SQUARE AS FUK
by Anonymous | reply 328 | May 31, 2018 7:23 AM |
You must not have meet the handsome Prince Dimitri. There are many princes who frequent the Townhouse.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 329 | May 31, 2018 7:33 AM |
You never who you will meet there. Lots of Hollywood actors frequent it.
by Anonymous | reply 330 | June 1, 2018 7:49 AM |
How will an eldergay in a cheap suit fare there?
by Anonymous | reply 331 | June 1, 2018 7:52 AM |
Let me know as I am pressing my Robert Hall wool poly blend suit...
by Anonymous | reply 332 | June 1, 2018 8:08 AM |
In all my time at Townhouse, I’ve NEVER seen a Hollywood actor. Though for some reason, it does attract a certain semi-closeted old money type who would never be seen at say Julius. Like attracts like I guess. And I’m sure the Upper East Side location plays into that.
by Anonymous | reply 333 | June 1, 2018 3:12 PM |
It's one of life's soulsearching moments when one is asked how much money sex with you is worth. Though it's more a Rounds (now long gone) on the next block than a Townhouse moment.
by Anonymous | reply 334 | June 1, 2018 4:11 PM |
I’ll be there tomorrow night.
by Anonymous | reply 335 | June 18, 2018 6:23 AM |
Lots of famous people and wealthy Titans go there
by Anonymous | reply 336 | June 18, 2018 6:54 AM |
If you are a star with any kind of fame, AVOID like the bubonic plague unless you are out and proud. Because the gays will jump all over that in a heartbeat and make sure the media knows about it, like, instantly.
by Anonymous | reply 337 | June 18, 2018 7:00 AM |
was that Bradley cooper in drag I saw there???
by Anonymous | reply 338 | June 18, 2018 10:56 AM |
When did the Townhouse have a darkroom? I never saw one there. For that matter, I never saw dancers either.
by Anonymous | reply 339 | June 18, 2018 11:01 AM |
They recently started having dancers on the bottom floor on some weekend nights (with cover charge to enter that area).
by Anonymous | reply 340 | June 18, 2018 1:36 PM |
This place is so fun, because of the mix of demographics. Also, if you're under 35 the dress code does not apply. WORKING BOYS WELCOME!
by Anonymous | reply 342 | July 19, 2018 8:35 AM |
Can men in this bar tell if a younger guy there is into daddies or working? I(22) was there last week and some men definitely thought I was there to earn money. Even tried to dress like a smart geeky boy lol
by Anonymous | reply 343 | July 20, 2018 1:39 AM |
The best gay bar in Manhattan
by Anonymous | reply 344 | August 1, 2018 9:50 AM |
Unless you’re our fav teen, Joel with his elder neighbour
by Anonymous | reply 346 | August 30, 2018 7:59 AM |
Tell the bartender you know Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia and you get a free drink!
by Anonymous | reply 347 | August 31, 2018 3:19 AM |
This is the classiest Gay Bar in NYC. On busy nights there are 40% 20/30/40yo guys (10% under 30 are escorts), 55% 50-80+ guys and then 5% Frau and UES elder fag hags. Quite an eclectic crowd!
by Anonymous | reply 349 | October 1, 2018 5:45 AM |
Friend and I used to call the downstairs room "The Air France First-Class Departure Lounge". It frequently smelled of mildew due to flooding(?). Haven't been there in years. Back 10+ years ago on Friday and Saturday nights there was this awful fag hag there by the name of Ruthie. She could get belligerent and nasty the drunker she got and she'd grope men too. Was supposed to be a nurse.
by Anonymous | reply 350 | October 1, 2018 6:01 AM |
R350 she was ahead of her time now all the "faghags" sexually assault men at gay clubs
by Anonymous | reply 351 | October 1, 2018 6:03 AM |
Sometimes some Elder Gay celebrities will wonder in
by Anonymous | reply 353 | October 26, 2018 7:49 AM |
Rex Reed? Who else who's still alive?
by Anonymous | reply 354 | November 3, 2018 4:38 AM |
If Datalounge were a gay bar, it would be the Townhouse.
by Anonymous | reply 355 | November 3, 2018 4:42 AM |
This place is actually really fun on Fridays and Saturdays.
by Anonymous | reply 356 | July 30, 2019 8:18 PM |
R13 I agree. Thursday thru Sunday, Rick is the best!
by Anonymous | reply 357 | July 30, 2019 8:24 PM |
Is it still busy anymore?
by Anonymous | reply 358 | July 31, 2019 10:52 AM |
We have a Datalounger reporting LIVE from Townhouse.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 359 | December 16, 2019 10:17 PM |
I hope Townhouse makes it through this crisis.
by Anonymous | reply 360 | May 2, 2020 1:22 AM |
I'm sorry if this was posted somewhere else, but Rick died of Covid.
by Anonymous | reply 361 | May 3, 2020 6:00 PM |
The piano player, R361? That's sad to hear.
by Anonymous | reply 362 | May 3, 2020 6:11 PM |
I’m dreading when my gay bar reopens - I fear many of the eldergays didn’t make it through. A few had serious health issues including lung cancer before this started. I’ll be sad if they died.
by Anonymous | reply 363 | May 3, 2020 6:44 PM |
Townhouse should update their site to reflect they are now closed.
by Anonymous | reply 364 | May 3, 2020 7:40 PM |
R364 yes, I’m sure Elders have mistakenly dropped by thinking they were open.
by Anonymous | reply 365 | May 3, 2020 8:01 PM |
I used to go to Regent East way back in the 80’s, before I moved out of town. I met some nice men there. I guess that’s been gone for a long time.
I’ve been to the Townhouse, but only once or twice, mostly because, when I come back on visits, I rarely get over to the East Side. The crowd seemed amiable. I suppose they get more amiable later in the evening.
by Anonymous | reply 366 | May 5, 2020 12:41 AM |
I thought the Townhouse AKA The Wrinkle Room closed years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 367 | May 5, 2020 12:50 AM |
Extensive article on the Townhouse killer.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 368 | May 5, 2020 7:11 PM |
Why would you post that, R368?
by Anonymous | reply 369 | May 5, 2020 7:50 PM |
It seems it is true that Rick Unterberg has died of Covid-19.
Fuck.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 370 | May 5, 2020 8:41 PM |
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